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	<title>Comments on: Dear Pastor Tom</title>
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		<title>By: Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/</title>
		<link>http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/10/11/dear-pastor-tom/comment-page-1/#comment-145</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2006 02:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your story about that woman breaks my heart.  I think the problem with &quot;Christians&quot; is that so many have an incorrect understanding of grace and sanctification.  I could go on and on about this.  God’s grace covers all of our sins, all our imperfections, all of our idiosyncrasies. Jesus’ death on the cross took care of all our sins – those we committed before we were saved AND those we committed since that moment.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But still, we think it’s easier to follow rules than to try to live in the reality of grace.  We quickly forget Paul’s warning to the Colossians: Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: &quot;Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!&quot;? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. Colossians 2:20-23&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rules will get your nowhere fast.  How many Christians have said &quot;this is the last time I&#039;ll commit this sin&quot;, and it really wasn’t?  And they certainly won’t help you to understand God’s character.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And sanctification is another story.  Christians are afraid to get their hands dirty (yes, I&#039;ve read &quot;The Gutter&quot; by Craig and cried all the way through it).  I think of the story of Lazarus in John 11.  When Lazarus came out of that tomb, he was smelly, dirty, and tightly wrapped in grave clothes.  But Jesus saw through all that, knowing that Lazarus was once dead but had been made alive, and that underneath those stinky grave clothes was a new creation.  He asked those present (Jews, who were forbidden to tough a dead person) to see past the grave clothes to the new person underneath and unwrap him.  Christians often expect that when someone gets saved, they are instantly supposed to be a new creation.  They don&#039;t want to have to get their hands dirty.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Keep sharing your thoughts and esploring them.  And don&#039;t give up on Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your story about that woman breaks my heart.  I think the problem with &#8220;Christians&#8221; is that so many have an incorrect understanding of grace and sanctification.  I could go on and on about this.  God’s grace covers all of our sins, all our imperfections, all of our idiosyncrasies. Jesus’ death on the cross took care of all our sins – those we committed before we were saved AND those we committed since that moment.  </p>
<p>But still, we think it’s easier to follow rules than to try to live in the reality of grace.  We quickly forget Paul’s warning to the Colossians: Since you died with Christ to the basic principles of this world, why, as though you still belonged to it, do you submit to its rules: &#8220;Do not handle! Do not taste! Do not touch!&#8221;? These are all destined to perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings. Such regulations indeed have an appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence. Colossians 2:20-23</p>
<p>Rules will get your nowhere fast.  How many Christians have said &#8220;this is the last time I&#8217;ll commit this sin&#8221;, and it really wasn’t?  And they certainly won’t help you to understand God’s character.</p>
<p>And sanctification is another story.  Christians are afraid to get their hands dirty (yes, I&#8217;ve read &#8220;The Gutter&#8221; by Craig and cried all the way through it).  I think of the story of Lazarus in John 11.  When Lazarus came out of that tomb, he was smelly, dirty, and tightly wrapped in grave clothes.  But Jesus saw through all that, knowing that Lazarus was once dead but had been made alive, and that underneath those stinky grave clothes was a new creation.  He asked those present (Jews, who were forbidden to tough a dead person) to see past the grave clothes to the new person underneath and unwrap him.  Christians often expect that when someone gets saved, they are instantly supposed to be a new creation.  They don&#8217;t want to have to get their hands dirty.  </p>
<p>Keep sharing your thoughts and esploring them.  And don&#8217;t give up on Christians.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth is they’ve sat in their pews for two thousand years and they still don’t understand that Jesus washed her feet because the ground she walked on wasn’t pure enough for her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is they’ve sat in their pews for two thousand years and they still don’t understand that Jesus washed her feet because the ground she walked on wasn’t pure enough for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 07:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I left a message previously after finding your blog late September.&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve been reading along since then and every time you write, I get goosebumps down my spine. &lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s really amazing to see how you&#039;re really taking a beating from a lot of people and you&#039;re still standing up straight. Good luck with your personal situations, eventually God will provide answers to that too.&lt;br/&gt;Your letter to &quot;Pastor Tom&quot; is very straight to the point, I often hear &quot;agnostics&quot; or other people that do not believe in God, refer to christians in the way you desribed, even my boyfriend has simply been turned off by the many sunday-christians out there (my boyfriend&#039;s Mother one of them) that do not truly live in Jesus footsteps. They need a good smack upside the head, and I hope your letter will do exactly that to &quot;Pastor Tom&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Goodluck, don&#039;t give up!&lt;br/&gt;-Arenda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I left a message previously after finding your blog late September.<br />I&#8217;ve been reading along since then and every time you write, I get goosebumps down my spine. <br />It&#8217;s really amazing to see how you&#8217;re really taking a beating from a lot of people and you&#8217;re still standing up straight. Good luck with your personal situations, eventually God will provide answers to that too.<br />Your letter to &#8220;Pastor Tom&#8221; is very straight to the point, I often hear &#8220;agnostics&#8221; or other people that do not believe in God, refer to christians in the way you desribed, even my boyfriend has simply been turned off by the many sunday-christians out there (my boyfriend&#8217;s Mother one of them) that do not truly live in Jesus footsteps. They need a good smack upside the head, and I hope your letter will do exactly that to &#8220;Pastor Tom&#8221;</p>
<p>Goodluck, don&#8217;t give up!<br />-Arenda</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 06:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been reading your blog since i heard about it in a xxxchurch news letter. i have to say that what you say is so true and i wish and pray it wasn&#039;t. From the bottom of my heart as a brother in our Lord, i am truly glad that you said what you did and exposed  the problem within the modern christian society. One thing that i wish you would talk about more is the damage women go through, being in porn. Until i was reading some of your old blog that i really came to even imagine that these women could not be happy with the choices that they make. I guess i am asking why do they do something that the feel like crap after doing? I think alot of people could benefit from hearing what you have to say about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been reading your blog since i heard about it in a xxxchurch news letter. i have to say that what you say is so true and i wish and pray it wasn&#8217;t. From the bottom of my heart as a brother in our Lord, i am truly glad that you said what you did and exposed  the problem within the modern christian society. One thing that i wish you would talk about more is the damage women go through, being in porn. Until i was reading some of your old blog that i really came to even imagine that these women could not be happy with the choices that they make. I guess i am asking why do they do something that the feel like crap after doing? I think alot of people could benefit from hearing what you have to say about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Donny,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You&#039;re a cool guy.  The letter was pretty good.  Well good luck buddy whatever you decide!  You too Belinda!&lt;br/&gt;Nothing wrong with a little nude photography here and there!</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re a cool guy.  The letter was pretty good.  Well good luck buddy whatever you decide!  You too Belinda!<br />Nothing wrong with a little nude photography here and there!</p>
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		<title>By: suckafree</title>
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		<dc:creator>suckafree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said... I&#039;m glad you took a stand  the way you did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said&#8230; I&#8217;m glad you took a stand  the way you did.</p>
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		<title>By: weekenderman</title>
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		<dc:creator>weekenderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, very well put, Donny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, very well put, Donny!</p>
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		<title>By: thad</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Donny: As a pastor who has been very encouraged by the way Mike, Craig, and their cohorts have embodied the transforming, pursuing good news that is Jesus, I just want to thank you for being brave (or foolish - a word with new definitions in God&#039;s Kingdom) enough to let folks participate in and observe your journey. I can&#039;t help but wonder if I were in your shoes whether I&#039;d make the same choice; I might be more inclined to slink away quietly and avoid all the scrutiny. Bless you for your honesty and transparency.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think we have much to learn from you, and your letter to Pastor Tom is a letter to many more than him. I don&#039;t know Tom, and I haven&#039;t yet listened to the radio shows or podcast, so I can&#039;t speak to his specific words or spirit. All I can say is I think you&#039;re right. I think the xxxchurch folks are right to be in and among their Jerusalem, and I think you&#039;re right to testify to the grace they demonstrated to you and how it turned your world upside down.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Like you, I get angry with Christians (and I&#039;ve never not claimed to be one). We can be a difficult lot, prone to fear and impatience with people and things that are unfamiliar and uncomfortable for us. The 20th century gave us a Christian subculture which prized insulation and separation at the expense of incarnation and contextualization. We should know better, but the gravitational forces pulling us further away from the realities of a broken world are very, very strong. Religion lurks on the outskirts of faith, counterfeiting the real thing and competing for converts. Strange as it may sound, leaving the apparent security of that world is as daunting to many (most?) professing modern American Christians as is your exodus from the porn world. They (we) need no less grace than you.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Don&#039;t misunderstand me - it&#039;s right for you to speak the truth and speak it clearly. I don&#039;t know you, but I suspect your anger is righteous and justified. As I said, we have much to learn from you, and we don&#039;t need you to sanitize the reality you know. I pray we&#039;ll receive from you, you from us, and that we&#039;ll all extend one another grace along the way. Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Donny: As a pastor who has been very encouraged by the way Mike, Craig, and their cohorts have embodied the transforming, pursuing good news that is Jesus, I just want to thank you for being brave (or foolish &#8211; a word with new definitions in God&#8217;s Kingdom) enough to let folks participate in and observe your journey. I can&#8217;t help but wonder if I were in your shoes whether I&#8217;d make the same choice; I might be more inclined to slink away quietly and avoid all the scrutiny. Bless you for your honesty and transparency.</p>
<p>I think we have much to learn from you, and your letter to Pastor Tom is a letter to many more than him. I don&#8217;t know Tom, and I haven&#8217;t yet listened to the radio shows or podcast, so I can&#8217;t speak to his specific words or spirit. All I can say is I think you&#8217;re right. I think the xxxchurch folks are right to be in and among their Jerusalem, and I think you&#8217;re right to testify to the grace they demonstrated to you and how it turned your world upside down.</p>
<p>Like you, I get angry with Christians (and I&#8217;ve never not claimed to be one). We can be a difficult lot, prone to fear and impatience with people and things that are unfamiliar and uncomfortable for us. The 20th century gave us a Christian subculture which prized insulation and separation at the expense of incarnation and contextualization. We should know better, but the gravitational forces pulling us further away from the realities of a broken world are very, very strong. Religion lurks on the outskirts of faith, counterfeiting the real thing and competing for converts. Strange as it may sound, leaving the apparent security of that world is as daunting to many (most?) professing modern American Christians as is your exodus from the porn world. They (we) need no less grace than you.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t misunderstand me &#8211; it&#8217;s right for you to speak the truth and speak it clearly. I don&#8217;t know you, but I suspect your anger is righteous and justified. As I said, we have much to learn from you, and we don&#8217;t need you to sanitize the reality you know. I pray we&#8217;ll receive from you, you from us, and that we&#8217;ll all extend one another grace along the way. Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: kitsune</title>
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		<dc:creator>kitsune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am filled with respect for the xxxchurch guys, as I know that I couldn&#039;t go to a porn show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am filled with respect for the xxxchurch guys, as I know that I couldn&#8217;t go to a porn show.</p>
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		<title>By: Gotthammer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gotthammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2006 00:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Donny. I was telling a pastoral colleague about XXXChurch and how stoked I am that there are guys like that out there and he sort of looked at me like WTF? I&#039;ve always been a foxholes and trenches Christian myself. I know I can get hurt and tempted and maybe even mess up...but the apostle Paul said he would be &quot;cut off from Christ&quot; if it would see some people come to saving grace. That&#039;s truly hardcore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Donny. I was telling a pastoral colleague about XXXChurch and how stoked I am that there are guys like that out there and he sort of looked at me like WTF? I&#8217;ve always been a foxholes and trenches Christian myself. I know I can get hurt and tempted and maybe even mess up&#8230;but the apostle Paul said he would be &#8220;cut off from Christ&#8221; if it would see some people come to saving grace. That&#8217;s truly hardcore.</p>
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