Comments on: These Colors Don't Run (the world)… http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/ The Blog of Donny Pauling: former porn producer, changed by Grace and Love... Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:45:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-724 Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ Sat, 16 Dec 2006 13:43:17 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-724 Donny, I'd have to disagree slightly that nothing is being done. In the last election, there were ballot measures in Oregon and South Dakota concerning abortion. Niether passed, but it's a start. And the Supreme court will soon be making a decision about partial-birth abortion. This wouldn't have been possible prior to Alito and Roberts being on the court, which was a direct result of Bush being in office. Plus, I can't say I'd be completely comfortable making abortion straight-up illegal for all. I think we need to do a lot more education first. Like this program called "Option Ultrasound". They put ultrasound machines in abortion clinics and give women the option of having an ultrasound prior to deciding to have an abortion. Women who see their babies on ultrasound are far less likely to seek abortions than those without access to such an option. Why? Because it's hard to believe the lie that it's just a clump of cells when it is shaped like a human and has a heartbeat.<br /><br />Just my thoughts, of course :) I've loved following your story through XXXChurch, and am excited to see how God is continuing to work in your life. Donny, I’d have to disagree slightly that nothing is being done. In the last election, there were ballot measures in Oregon and South Dakota concerning abortion. Niether passed, but it’s a start. And the Supreme court will soon be making a decision about partial-birth abortion. This wouldn’t have been possible prior to Alito and Roberts being on the court, which was a direct result of Bush being in office. Plus, I can’t say I’d be completely comfortable making abortion straight-up illegal for all. I think we need to do a lot more education first. Like this program called “Option Ultrasound”. They put ultrasound machines in abortion clinics and give women the option of having an ultrasound prior to deciding to have an abortion. Women who see their babies on ultrasound are far less likely to seek abortions than those without access to such an option. Why? Because it’s hard to believe the lie that it’s just a clump of cells when it is shaped like a human and has a heartbeat.

Just my thoughts, of course :) I’ve loved following your story through XXXChurch, and am excited to see how God is continuing to work in your life.

]]> By: Gotthammer http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-723 Gotthammer Fri, 15 Dec 2006 22:40:20 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-723 That's why I the only churches I'll work for anymore have to be ones that are actively involved in social justice at some level. Which currently means a General Conference Mennonite Church up here in the Great White North. These people give you the shirt off their backs and then some. <br /><br />Once wrote an article about ture counter cultural Christianity being counter to consumer culture, but the Christian magazine that usually buys my work wasn't interested in it. Too much biting the hand that fed them I guess. That’s why I the only churches I’ll work for anymore have to be ones that are actively involved in social justice at some level. Which currently means a General Conference Mennonite Church up here in the Great White North. These people give you the shirt off their backs and then some.

Once wrote an article about ture counter cultural Christianity being counter to consumer culture, but the Christian magazine that usually buys my work wasn’t interested in it. Too much biting the hand that fed them I guess.

]]> By: Randy http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-722 Randy Fri, 15 Dec 2006 14:58:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-722 "Shouldn't we be spending billions of dollars a day solving humanitarian problems, rather than blowing up Iraq so that we can insure that our oil supply doesn't diminish?"<br /><br />“Blame the diehard Christians for voting Bush back into office.” <br /><br />There's more to it than just insuring America's oil supply. Iraq is a former Nazi client state and after WWII a Soviet client state, so by smacking Iraq around the US is killing off Nazi sympathizers, which helps Israel, and works to prevent a reemergence of the Soviet Union, which would result in a return to the Cold War. <br /><br /><br />Randy “Shouldn’t we be spending billions of dollars a day solving humanitarian problems, rather than blowing up Iraq so that we can insure that our oil supply doesn’t diminish?”

“Blame the diehard Christians for voting Bush back into office.”

There’s more to it than just insuring America’s oil supply. Iraq is a former Nazi client state and after WWII a Soviet client state, so by smacking Iraq around the US is killing off Nazi sympathizers, which helps Israel, and works to prevent a reemergence of the Soviet Union, which would result in a return to the Cold War.

Randy

]]> By: brad http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-721 brad Fri, 15 Dec 2006 04:43:52 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-721 anonymous, i agree that it is difficult to change minds so that people might give of themselves to help others. however, i hope, and will do my part.<br /><br />i also agree, bill gates may just do more than most christians. maybe he is being christlike with how he is committing his resources to help those in need in the world.<br /><br />definately bono is a shining example of a person living by their convictions...regardless of if i like his music or not.<br /><br />brad anonymous, i agree that it is difficult to change minds so that people might give of themselves to help others. however, i hope, and will do my part.

i also agree, bill gates may just do more than most christians. maybe he is being christlike with how he is committing his resources to help those in need in the world.

definately bono is a shining example of a person living by their convictions…regardless of if i like his music or not.

brad

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-720 Anonymous Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:38:02 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-720 "Shouldn't we be spending billions of dollars a day solving humanitarian problems, rather than blowing up Iraq so that we can insure that our oil supply doesn't diminish?"<br /><br />Blame the diehard Christians for voting Bush back into office. <br /><br />Good luck on changing the ways of the bible thumpers too. Everyone loves to talk about taking care of others but oh so few will ever practice what they preach. The evil Bill Gates will do more for the word than most of Christianity combined. “Shouldn’t we be spending billions of dollars a day solving humanitarian problems, rather than blowing up Iraq so that we can insure that our oil supply doesn’t diminish?”

Blame the diehard Christians for voting Bush back into office.

Good luck on changing the ways of the bible thumpers too. Everyone loves to talk about taking care of others but oh so few will ever practice what they preach. The evil Bill Gates will do more for the word than most of Christianity combined.

]]> By: Donny Pauling http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-719 Donny Pauling Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:19:34 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-719 Oceanskater,<br /><br />I agree, the unborn count as "poor". That being said, not long ago I blogged about how Christians are tricked into voting republican by that issue. <br /><br />I'm a registered Republican, but I too will likely change to Independent.<br /><br />Republicans use abortion to acquire the "Christian" vote. They never do anything about it and the only time the issue is really on their mind is when it's time for an election.<br /><br />A Republican was in the office of President when abortion was legalized, and Republicans have held office for more than 20 total years since it was legalized. I'm still waiting for the one that has overturned Roe V Wade. Oceanskater,

I agree, the unborn count as “poor”. That being said, not long ago I blogged about how Christians are tricked into voting republican by that issue.

I’m a registered Republican, but I too will likely change to Independent.

Republicans use abortion to acquire the “Christian” vote. They never do anything about it and the only time the issue is really on their mind is when it’s time for an election.

A Republican was in the office of President when abortion was legalized, and Republicans have held office for more than 20 total years since it was legalized. I’m still waiting for the one that has overturned Roe V Wade.

]]> By: Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-718 Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:26:47 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-718 Also, I don't think it necessarily matters which party we're affiliated with. I'm a registered Dem, but I don't agree with them on all counts and often vote Republican. I will probably switch to be Indy as the Dem party because more and more insistent on allowing abortion without any restrictions. I count helpless fetuses in the "poor" category as well. We need to remember that when the Bible talks about being "poor", it's not just talking about money. Also, I don’t think it necessarily matters which party we’re affiliated with. I’m a registered Dem, but I don’t agree with them on all counts and often vote Republican. I will probably switch to be Indy as the Dem party because more and more insistent on allowing abortion without any restrictions. I count helpless fetuses in the “poor” category as well. We need to remember that when the Bible talks about being “poor”, it’s not just talking about money.

]]> By: Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-717 Oceanskaterhttp://unveiledfaces.org/wordpress/ Thu, 14 Dec 2006 15:17:37 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-717 Came across this verse last night:<br />"If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered." Proverbs 21:13<br /><br />Powerful. Came across this verse last night:
“If a man shuts his ears to the cry of the poor, he too will cry out and not be answered.” Proverbs 21:13

Powerful.

]]> By: SolShine7http://solshine7.blogspot.com http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-716 SolShine7http://solshine7.blogspot.com Thu, 14 Dec 2006 07:46:09 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-716 People like their plush stadium sanctuary seats a little too much. However, there are some believers who have the discipline not feed their expensive tastebuds and focus their money on feeding other people too. <br /><br />I'm not gonna even try to front on this issue, I'm so not where I need to be in this area. I try but I could do some much more if I fully surrended myself to the Holy Spirit's hand of discpline in this matter. <br /><br />Bishop Tudor Bismark, who's from Africa, challenged my church to make these life goals: 1. Build a well in a foreign country 2. Pay for the vaccinations of at least one child 3. Build a medical center in a needy country 4. Pay for at least one child's education other than your own. <br /><br />What he said really reasonated with me and now I've made them part of my life goals. I totally believe that with God's strength it can be done. And I cling to the promise that He's not done with me and my struggling organizational habits in this area. <br /><br />Good post. Keep fighting the good fight of faith!! People like their plush stadium sanctuary seats a little too much. However, there are some believers who have the discipline not feed their expensive tastebuds and focus their money on feeding other people too.

I’m not gonna even try to front on this issue, I’m so not where I need to be in this area. I try but I could do some much more if I fully surrended myself to the Holy Spirit’s hand of discpline in this matter.

Bishop Tudor Bismark, who’s from Africa, challenged my church to make these life goals: 1. Build a well in a foreign country 2. Pay for the vaccinations of at least one child 3. Build a medical center in a needy country 4. Pay for at least one child’s education other than your own.

What he said really reasonated with me and now I’ve made them part of my life goals. I totally believe that with God’s strength it can be done. And I cling to the promise that He’s not done with me and my struggling organizational habits in this area.

Good post. Keep fighting the good fight of faith!!

]]> By: Kirk Lockharthttp://www.kirklockhart.com http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/comment-page-1/#comment-715 Kirk Lockharthttp://www.kirklockhart.com Thu, 14 Dec 2006 06:05:01 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/2006/12/12/these-colors-dont-run-the-world/#comment-715 Hold on there anonymous... don't miss the point here. The point is that the world's water problems, and sanitation problems, and hunger are SOLVABLE problems. We've spent $500 billion in Iraq. At even the high end of this estimate, we could have already paid for the world's water needs twice over in the past 3 years for the same amount that we've spent on what has proven to be a futile and worthless war effort. And while this is a hindsight argument, it should at least make rethink things from another perspective. <br /><br />k. Hold on there anonymous… don’t miss the point here. The point is that the world’s water problems, and sanitation problems, and hunger are SOLVABLE problems. We’ve spent $500 billion in Iraq. At even the high end of this estimate, we could have already paid for the world’s water needs twice over in the past 3 years for the same amount that we’ve spent on what has proven to be a futile and worthless war effort. And while this is a hindsight argument, it should at least make rethink things from another perspective.

k.

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