Comments on: To Mr. Anderson and Mr. Friel from "Way of the Master" http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/ The Blog of Donny Pauling: former porn producer, changed by Grace and Love... Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jacob http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2101 jacob Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:34:12 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-2101 oops oops

]]> By: jacob http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-6489 jacob Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:34:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-6489 oops oops

]]> By: jacob http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2100 jacob Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:09:53 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-2100 i also was drawn to Christ when he melted my heart in a movie theatre one afternoon. i saw passion of the Christ and i realized that there are alot of dimwitted Christ followers out there, because they did not represent the God i fell in love with that day. I felt loved for the first time, and to know he loved me even though i was in sin and so he died for me to erase my sin brought me to tears. thats the message we need to get out. The cross is the good news. Conversations on hell dont go over well unless its put into its correct context, which you cant do with someone on the street in a 2 min. conversation. The best book i have read about christianity to date is "Unchristian". Awesome. it totally and completely captured how i thought of christians. Peace. One in Christ, Jake i also was drawn to Christ when he melted my heart in a movie theatre one afternoon. i saw passion of the Christ and i realized that there are alot of dimwitted Christ followers out there, because they did not represent the God i fell in love with that day. I felt loved for the first time, and to know he loved me even though i was in sin and so he died for me to erase my sin brought me to tears. thats the message we need to get out. The cross is the good news. Conversations on hell dont go over well unless its put into its correct context, which you cant do with someone on the street in a 2 min. conversation. The best book i have read about christianity to date is “Unchristian”. Awesome. it totally and completely captured how i thought of christians. Peace.

One in Christ,
Jake

]]> By: jacob http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-6488 jacob Fri, 13 Mar 2009 03:09:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-6488 i also was drawn to Christ when he melted my heart in a movie theatre one afternoon. i saw passion of the Christ and i realized that there are alot of dimwitted Christ followers out there, because they did not represent the God i fell in love with that day. I felt loved for the first time, and to know he loved me even though i was in sin and so he died for me to erase my sin brought me to tears. thats the message we need to get out. The cross is the good news. Conversations on hell dont go over well unless its put into its correct context, which you cant do with someone on the street in a 2 min. conversation. The best book i have read about christianity to date is "Unchristian". Awesome. it totally and completely captured how i thought of christians. Peace. One in Christ, Jake i also was drawn to Christ when he melted my heart in a movie theatre one afternoon. i saw passion of the Christ and i realized that there are alot of dimwitted Christ followers out there, because they did not represent the God i fell in love with that day. I felt loved for the first time, and to know he loved me even though i was in sin and so he died for me to erase my sin brought me to tears. thats the message we need to get out. The cross is the good news. Conversations on hell dont go over well unless its put into its correct context, which you cant do with someone on the street in a 2 min. conversation. The best book i have read about christianity to date is “Unchristian”. Awesome. it totally and completely captured how i thought of christians. Peace.

One in Christ,
Jake

]]> By: Caspar http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2099 Caspar Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:19:46 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-2099 I am a truck driver and listen often to "Way of the Master" show. Initially I was upset by Mr. Friel and his confrontational and satirist nature, but continued to listen because I found the topics discussed to be real and worth discussing. I actually found this blog by surfing and looking for "Way of the Master" info. Donny, I especially have enjoyed reading both your and Bruce's comments. From my limited study I cannot always discern right and wrong for other Christians and (I think) Paul discusses that some things may be sin to some while not to others. Christianity is an organized religion, but it is more about a personal relationship with our Creator who became a man and suffered for my sin. Not only mine, but the entire population of the world past, present and future. The Bible is our guide to know and serve Him to the best of our abilities. It gives us truth and from it we can learn discernment. At this point in my personal growth I appreciate the fact that not all Christians agree on everything and not everybody just gets in line and follows. When it comes to motivation and God's work I am sure as I can be about anothers heart that Mr. Friel is compasionate. Hecan be abrasive, but I hear his compassion and he is the first to admit he is a wretch and often claims to be the "biggest" sinner. He is thoughtfull and allows for people to confront him about his beliefs and methods. He publicly questions his own pride and methods and desires to show compassion while being confrontational. Bottom line to me is we all suffer from pride and sometimes we allow it to damage God's work He is doing through us. Somewhere within me it is probably my pride that wants my meandering thoughts to be posted for others to read. I love God and am thankfull for our differences and yet if I were forced to choose between your two arguments at this time I think Bruce's comments are closer to my convictions. Why? It may be because of my back ground and who I am, but it also has to do with the idea that through Christ we have freedom from the Law but it is in the Law we can find freedom. As Christians we want to allow Him to do His work through us. As we grow in Him our sins change or at least what we are aware of changes. We are never to be self-righteous yet always searching and growing in our faith and walk. Always judging (i.e. discerning) yet not being judgmental. I look forward to meeting you both (and Mr. Friel) someday in heaven. Caspar I am a truck driver and listen often to “Way of the Master” show. Initially I was upset by Mr. Friel and his confrontational and satirist nature, but continued to listen because I found the topics discussed to be real and worth discussing.

I actually found this blog by surfing and looking for “Way of the Master” info. Donny, I especially have enjoyed reading both your and Bruce’s comments.

From my limited study I cannot always discern right and wrong for other Christians and (I think) Paul discusses that some things may be sin to some while not to others.

Christianity is an organized religion, but it is more about a personal relationship with our Creator who became a man and suffered for my sin. Not only mine, but the entire population of the world past, present and future. The Bible is our guide to know and serve Him to the best of our abilities. It gives us truth and from it we can learn discernment. At this point in my personal growth I appreciate the fact that not all Christians agree on everything and not everybody just gets in line and follows.

When it comes to motivation and God’s work I am sure as I can be about anothers heart that Mr. Friel is compasionate. Hecan be abrasive, but I hear his compassion and he is the first to admit he is a wretch and often claims to be the “biggest” sinner. He is thoughtfull and allows for people to confront him about his beliefs and methods. He publicly questions his own pride and methods and desires to show compassion while being confrontational.

Bottom line to me is we all suffer from pride and sometimes we allow it to damage God’s work He is doing through us. Somewhere within me it is probably my pride that wants my meandering thoughts to be posted for others to read.

I love God and am thankfull for our differences and yet if I were forced to choose between your two arguments at this time I think Bruce’s comments are closer to my convictions. Why? It may be because of my back ground and who I am, but it also has to do with the idea that through Christ we have freedom from the Law but it is in the Law we can find freedom. As Christians we want to allow Him to do His work through us. As we grow in Him our sins change or at least what we are aware of changes. We are never to be self-righteous yet always searching and growing in our faith and walk. Always judging (i.e. discerning) yet not being judgmental.

I look forward to meeting you both (and Mr. Friel) someday in heaven.

Caspar

]]> By: Caspar http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-6487 Caspar Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:19:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-6487 I am a truck driver and listen often to "Way of the Master" show. Initially I was upset by Mr. Friel and his confrontational and satirist nature, but continued to listen because I found the topics discussed to be real and worth discussing. I actually found this blog by surfing and looking for "Way of the Master" info. Donny, I especially have enjoyed reading both your and Bruce's comments. From my limited study I cannot always discern right and wrong for other Christians and (I think) Paul discusses that some things may be sin to some while not to others. Christianity is an organized religion, but it is more about a personal relationship with our Creator who became a man and suffered for my sin. Not only mine, but the entire population of the world past, present and future. The Bible is our guide to know and serve Him to the best of our abilities. It gives us truth and from it we can learn discernment. At this point in my personal growth I appreciate the fact that not all Christians agree on everything and not everybody just gets in line and follows. When it comes to motivation and God's work I am sure as I can be about anothers heart that Mr. Friel is compasionate. Hecan be abrasive, but I hear his compassion and he is the first to admit he is a wretch and often claims to be the "biggest" sinner. He is thoughtfull and allows for people to confront him about his beliefs and methods. He publicly questions his own pride and methods and desires to show compassion while being confrontational. Bottom line to me is we all suffer from pride and sometimes we allow it to damage God's work He is doing through us. Somewhere within me it is probably my pride that wants my meandering thoughts to be posted for others to read. I love God and am thankfull for our differences and yet if I were forced to choose between your two arguments at this time I think Bruce's comments are closer to my convictions. Why? It may be because of my back ground and who I am, but it also has to do with the idea that through Christ we have freedom from the Law but it is in the Law we can find freedom. As Christians we want to allow Him to do His work through us. As we grow in Him our sins change or at least what we are aware of changes. We are never to be self-righteous yet always searching and growing in our faith and walk. Always judging (i.e. discerning) yet not being judgmental. I look forward to meeting you both (and Mr. Friel) someday in heaven. Caspar I am a truck driver and listen often to “Way of the Master” show. Initially I was upset by Mr. Friel and his confrontational and satirist nature, but continued to listen because I found the topics discussed to be real and worth discussing.

I actually found this blog by surfing and looking for “Way of the Master” info. Donny, I especially have enjoyed reading both your and Bruce’s comments.

From my limited study I cannot always discern right and wrong for other Christians and (I think) Paul discusses that some things may be sin to some while not to others.

Christianity is an organized religion, but it is more about a personal relationship with our Creator who became a man and suffered for my sin. Not only mine, but the entire population of the world past, present and future. The Bible is our guide to know and serve Him to the best of our abilities. It gives us truth and from it we can learn discernment. At this point in my personal growth I appreciate the fact that not all Christians agree on everything and not everybody just gets in line and follows.

When it comes to motivation and God’s work I am sure as I can be about anothers heart that Mr. Friel is compasionate. Hecan be abrasive, but I hear his compassion and he is the first to admit he is a wretch and often claims to be the “biggest” sinner. He is thoughtfull and allows for people to confront him about his beliefs and methods. He publicly questions his own pride and methods and desires to show compassion while being confrontational.

Bottom line to me is we all suffer from pride and sometimes we allow it to damage God’s work He is doing through us. Somewhere within me it is probably my pride that wants my meandering thoughts to be posted for others to read.

I love God and am thankfull for our differences and yet if I were forced to choose between your two arguments at this time I think Bruce’s comments are closer to my convictions. Why? It may be because of my back ground and who I am, but it also has to do with the idea that through Christ we have freedom from the Law but it is in the Law we can find freedom. As Christians we want to allow Him to do His work through us. As we grow in Him our sins change or at least what we are aware of changes. We are never to be self-righteous yet always searching and growing in our faith and walk. Always judging (i.e. discerning) yet not being judgmental.

I look forward to meeting you both (and Mr. Friel) someday in heaven.

Caspar

]]> By: Swampy http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2098 Swampy Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:40:50 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-2098 One more comment....having discussion is a good thing, BUT NOT IN PUBLIC. That is the biggest and most important thing, for example does your church air its dirty linen in public? They would soon tear themselves apart if they did. One thing I spent a lot of this year learning was nonjudgementalism and how it works in a group or organisational dynamic, you simply CANNOT earn the right to make adverse comment to people who do not trust you and are not willing to open their hearts to you. Why is it any different in the bigger church? If a church organisation has learned that they need to keep their disagreements inside their four walls, then why are some churches eager to leap outside there to criticise other churches and ministries? We are all supposed to be believing in the same thing and we should be keeping our disputes between each other instead of broadcasting them for the whole world to see. I think the reality of someone using a radio show to criticise another ministry is political, and they run the same risks as any politician, of polarising people, which is not good. Leave it to the professional politicians and just stick to preaching the gospel. One more comment….having discussion is a good thing, BUT NOT IN PUBLIC. That is the biggest and most important thing, for example does your church air its dirty linen in public? They would soon tear themselves apart if they did. One thing I spent a lot of this year learning was nonjudgementalism and how it works in a group or organisational dynamic, you simply CANNOT earn the right to make adverse comment to people who do not trust you and are not willing to open their hearts to you. Why is it any different in the bigger church? If a church organisation has learned that they need to keep their disagreements inside their four walls, then why are some churches eager to leap outside there to criticise other churches and ministries? We are all supposed to be believing in the same thing and we should be keeping our disputes between each other instead of broadcasting them for the whole world to see.

I think the reality of someone using a radio show to criticise another ministry is political, and they run the same risks as any politician, of polarising people, which is not good. Leave it to the professional politicians and just stick to preaching the gospel.

]]> By: Swampy http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-6486 Swampy Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:40:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-6486 One more comment....having discussion is a good thing, BUT NOT IN PUBLIC. That is the biggest and most important thing, for example does your church air its dirty linen in public? They would soon tear themselves apart if they did. One thing I spent a lot of this year learning was nonjudgementalism and how it works in a group or organisational dynamic, you simply CANNOT earn the right to make adverse comment to people who do not trust you and are not willing to open their hearts to you. Why is it any different in the bigger church? If a church organisation has learned that they need to keep their disagreements inside their four walls, then why are some churches eager to leap outside there to criticise other churches and ministries? We are all supposed to be believing in the same thing and we should be keeping our disputes between each other instead of broadcasting them for the whole world to see. I think the reality of someone using a radio show to criticise another ministry is political, and they run the same risks as any politician, of polarising people, which is not good. Leave it to the professional politicians and just stick to preaching the gospel. One more comment….having discussion is a good thing, BUT NOT IN PUBLIC. That is the biggest and most important thing, for example does your church air its dirty linen in public? They would soon tear themselves apart if they did. One thing I spent a lot of this year learning was nonjudgementalism and how it works in a group or organisational dynamic, you simply CANNOT earn the right to make adverse comment to people who do not trust you and are not willing to open their hearts to you. Why is it any different in the bigger church? If a church organisation has learned that they need to keep their disagreements inside their four walls, then why are some churches eager to leap outside there to criticise other churches and ministries? We are all supposed to be believing in the same thing and we should be keeping our disputes between each other instead of broadcasting them for the whole world to see.

I think the reality of someone using a radio show to criticise another ministry is political, and they run the same risks as any politician, of polarising people, which is not good. Leave it to the professional politicians and just stick to preaching the gospel.

]]> By: Swampy http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-2097 Swampy Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:27:46 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-2097 just finished reading the rest of the comments, the ones that do strike me are the people who question why some Christian ministries spend all their time attacking each other, it's true. I'm leery even of churches that promote themselves as "the new thing" and implicitly better than other churches, they have the same problem. I don't bother with the "discernment ministries" and others that go around criticising churches and ministries. In the most part we don't really know how to interpret the Bible well enough to say that one theology is better than another and I wonder why people spend so much effort into developing and promoting different theologies when it doesn't make a blind bit of difference whether people believe them or not. just finished reading the rest of the comments, the ones that do strike me are the people who question why some Christian ministries spend all their time attacking each other, it’s true. I’m leery even of churches that promote themselves as “the new thing” and implicitly better than other churches, they have the same problem. I don’t bother with the “discernment ministries” and others that go around criticising churches and ministries. In the most part we don’t really know how to interpret the Bible well enough to say that one theology is better than another and I wonder why people spend so much effort into developing and promoting different theologies when it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference whether people believe them or not.

]]> By: Swampy http://www.donnypauling.com/blog/2008/01/26/to-mr-anderson-and-mr-friel-from-way-of-the-master/comment-page-1/#comment-6485 Swampy Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:27:00 +0000 http://donnysramblings.wordpress.com/?p=287#comment-6485 just finished reading the rest of the comments, the ones that do strike me are the people who question why some Christian ministries spend all their time attacking each other, it's true. I'm leery even of churches that promote themselves as "the new thing" and implicitly better than other churches, they have the same problem. I don't bother with the "discernment ministries" and others that go around criticising churches and ministries. In the most part we don't really know how to interpret the Bible well enough to say that one theology is better than another and I wonder why people spend so much effort into developing and promoting different theologies when it doesn't make a blind bit of difference whether people believe them or not. just finished reading the rest of the comments, the ones that do strike me are the people who question why some Christian ministries spend all their time attacking each other, it’s true. I’m leery even of churches that promote themselves as “the new thing” and implicitly better than other churches, they have the same problem. I don’t bother with the “discernment ministries” and others that go around criticising churches and ministries. In the most part we don’t really know how to interpret the Bible well enough to say that one theology is better than another and I wonder why people spend so much effort into developing and promoting different theologies when it doesn’t make a blind bit of difference whether people believe them or not.

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