Comments on: Conversations with Ted Haggard (Part I)

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:18:35 +0000

Nikki, are you saying Ted Haggard committed crimes against children? Why has no one said anything about this? Why haven’t the parents brought charges against him? Do you have proof New Life paid off victims? Such an action is a crime. It’s called witness tampering. You are making some serious charges, Nikki. I’d like to know your proof.

Even if you kids were only propositioned, as you appear to be claiming, that is also a crime.

You say your children are away from the church? That’s not necessarily a bad thing. Away from the church can mean closer to God. It depends on their hearts.

Please tell us your evidence for your charges.

By: Tom

Tom — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:18:00 +0000

Even if you kids were only propositioned, as you appear to be claiming, that is also a crime.

You say your children are away from the church? That’s not necessarily a bad thing. Away from the church can mean closer to God. It depends on their hearts.

Please tell us your evidence for your charges.

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:08:30 +0000

Nikki… You’re wrong.

By: Bob

Bob — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:08:00 +0000

Nikki… You’re wrong.

By: Niki

Niki — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:50:57 +0000

I have no sympathy for Ted. My four children’s faith in God was severely impacted by his actions. We went to New Life for many years. My kids were young teens when this all happened and have now walked away from the church. Ted, I know other young men you tormented and they have told me of the despicable things you did and said to them – things like God wants you to be his vessel for me – horrible stuff – of course New Life paid them to stay quiet. I don’t believe Ted or New Life has ever been fully truthful of the things he did. And now he wants all of us to forgive and forget. Forgive? Okay. Forget? Never. I wish he would just go into private life and remain there. He may think he’s helping people by speaking out, but really he’s just trying to shore up his image. I don’t believe a word out of his mouth, especially since I haven’t heard him ask for forgiveness for his young male victims or the children of the church who believed him with all their hearts. Their hearts were all broken and now Ted is profiting from TV specials, speaking engagements, and books all about his poor ordeal and being resurrected. He disgusts me.

By: Niki

Niki — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 04:50:00 +0000

By: Tom Terrific

Tom Terrific — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:02:38 +0000

As Oliver Hardy might say, “It’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into!”

These scandals are always messy. And painful.

But what is most painful is the pathological failure of the Church to come up with a means of dealing with stumbling pastors and leaders.

A very good friend of mine (he was best man at my wedding) was a pastor in an AoG church and was forced by his wife to file for divorce. He expected to be removed from his pulpit, but what hurt the most was once the news of his divorce and removal was announce HE NEVER HEARD FROM ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE CHURCH AGAIN! And he had been the pastor of his church for more than three or four years.

Not one congregant. Not one fellow pastor. Not one overseer ever called him or visited him or offered counsel to him in any way.

His pain was deep. And now, nearly ten years later, he is only just beginning to re-establish a relationship with God, shaky though it is.

Unfortunately we had lost touch with each other before these events and didn’t reconnect until six years after.

We are all sinners, saved by grace. The church needs teams of “trauma surgeons” to be dispatched to treat cases like these. Even when the wounds are self-inflicted. Especially when the wounds are self-inflicted.

But we’re afraid to. Especially with sexual sin. Why? It seems to me Christians feel the same terror at sins like adultery and homosexuality as the world reserves for convicted child molesters. We seem to not believe they can change.

Maranatha! Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

By: Tom Terrific

Tom Terrific — Wed, 27 May 2009 02:02:00 +0000

As Oliver Hardy might say, “It’s another fine mess you’ve gotten us into!”

These scandals are always messy. And painful.

But what is most painful is the pathological failure of the Church to come up with a means of dealing with stumbling pastors and leaders.

Not one congregant. Not one fellow pastor. Not one overseer ever called him or visited him or offered counsel to him in any way.

His pain was deep. And now, nearly ten years later, he is only just beginning to re-establish a relationship with God, shaky though it is.

Unfortunately we had lost touch with each other before these events and didn’t reconnect until six years after.

Maranatha! Come quickly, Lord Jesus!

By: Bob

Bob — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:48:24 +0000

Ted & Gayle a personal friends of mine. Ted even did our wedding this past March.

Thanks for writing an article allowing Ted’s side–and the TRUTH–to be told.

I love New Life Church, but I would like for someone–anyone–to go to the Overseers and confront them on the way that Ted & Gayle were treated.

The church blew it big-time.

By: Bob

Bob — Sat, 23 May 2009 21:48:00 +0000

Ted & Gayle a personal friends of mine. Ted even did our wedding this past March.

Thanks for writing an article allowing Ted’s side–and the TRUTH–to be told.

I love New Life Church, but I would like for someone–anyone–to go to the Overseers and confront them on the way that Ted & Gayle were treated.

The church blew it big-time.